PX4 /Angraf/ 1:25

[Fito]

Original:

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Vyrobca
Rozchod
Schema sukolia %|: PX4
: Podolska Wytwórnia Parowozów
: 600 mm
: D n2t[/vcol]
Lokomitivy PX4 boli používané na tratiach Bydgosko- Wyrzysich z rozchodom 600mm. Predloha tohoto modelu bola vyrobená v roku 1923 (2 kusy) v továrni Orenstein &Koppel. Po prechode na zeleznice PKP boli premenovane na PX-803 a PX-804.[/col]

Model:
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Mierka:
Vydavatel / Autor
Pocet dielov
Dlzka po zlepeni
Pocet stran vystrihovacky
Navodove kresby
Textovy navod
Linky na dalsie stavby %|: PX4
: 1:25
: Angraf / Darius Wandtke
: 1208
:39 cm
:9,5 x B4
:7 stran
:1 strana
: Kartonbau, autor Adler
: Konradus, autor Maverick[/vcol][/col]

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[Fito]

Kusok na uvod.
Uuuplnou nahodou vlastnim 2 originaly, co je na mna neskutocny pocet (Jozkin, pochval ma )

Avsak, nie je original ako original.
Na fotografiach vidite, ako to vyzera, ked sa robi reprint.., Hore je nova verzia, dole stara. Ta stara verzia je original z roku 2005. Ta nova, podla obalky a vsetkych ostatnych naznakov tiez. Jediny rozdiel, co sa obsahu tyka, sa da najst na zadnej obalke. Kym stara verzia ma na zadnej strane 6 modelov Angrafu, tak nova ich tam ma 15 + 3 novinky... . V oboch pripadoch vydanie prve, naklad 500 kusov... , to bude nejaka cernota Kupoval som to nedavno, tak pripadny zaujemcovia nech si daju pozor, ktoru ze verziu chcu.

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Avsak kvalitka vnutri je neporovnatelna. Stara verzia (spodne listy) je tlacena klasicky, tak ako vascina modelov, co som zatial videl.
Nova verzia je tlacena na pololesklom papieri, na omak mam dokonca pocit, ako by bola farba mierne voskova. Takto som zatial videl vytlacene iba 3 modely, vsetko najnovsie Angrafy (Pm3, Cysterna a tuto "reprintovu PX4 ku")
Na lepenie tohoto cuda Poliaci odporucaju pouzit lepidlo "Dragon", je to akesi polimerove lepidlo, nikde u nas som sa stym nestretol, tak to lepim klasicky Herkulesom. Zatial to drzi.
Co vsak nedrzi, tak to su temperky, tie tu vobec nefunguju, tak som presiel na retus akrylom.

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Tak, a ide sa na to, samozrejme, robim tu novu, lesklu verziu.
Ospravedlnujem sa vsetkym, co cakaju na tu moju "uuuplne ze velku parnu pecku", ale usudil som, ze sa predsalen potrebujem este mierne "rozpinkat"
Tak, ide sa na to.

[Potkan]

hmm... parada. krasna masinka. drzim palce a tesim sa na report. najviac ma zaujima presnost novsich typov Angrafu (kedze mam dva kusky od nich)... taktiez som zvedavy ako bude drzat akryl na tomto papiery...

pokial ide o to polymerowe lepidlo Dragon tak som u Leszeka objednal dva kusky tak to potom v Bystrici otestujeme. (lepsie povedane skontrolujeme a doma otestujeme)

[Fito]

Zacal som odzadu, teda tendrom.
Zo stavby som moc fotiek teda nenarobil, lebo som sa do toho tak zakusol, ze som stratil aj pojem o case.

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Tak, zakladna "krabicka", same podlepovacky na 1mm, ziadne problemy.


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Trochu fotiek na slniecku, ano, slnko je svina, na priamom slnku uz fotit nebudem.


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Par fotiek z nitovacky, trosku rozdiel, nenitovany a nitovany, podla mna to za tu robotu stoji.


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no a nejake tie detaily , na poslednej fotke su oznacene chyby, ktore spominam v texte nizsie.

Aktualne fotky z dnesnej noci nemam, ale tender mam hotovy.

CHYBY:
vazne chyby ziadne, ale :
diel 105 je dlhsi o viac ako 10mm, nie je problem, skratit sa da vzdy.
Medzi Rebro W4 a W1 treba vlozit este "medzikus" hrubka 2mm (na poslednej fotke v zelenom kruzku)
Rebro W4 treba podlepit na hrubku 1 mm , v navode to oznacene nie je.
Odporucam vystuzit zadnu cast oplastenia tendera (diel cislo 100), tak ako to mam zvyraznene na poslednej fotke (cervene casti).
trosku slabe navodne kresby, ked sak pokukate po reportoch, ktore mam spomenute v prvom prispevku, tak sa vysomari snad kazdy.

To je vsetko, este teda nafotim hotovy tender, a ide Lokomotiva.

[Potkan]

paraaaaaaaada...
k tym nitom - svata pravda... nity tomu daju smrnc...

[ultra]

..sledujem.....


aky priemer maju tie nity -- a ukaz cim to robis...nech nieco obkukame

[serpens]

Myslim, ze tu nieco spachal

[Fito]

Pokracujem koleckami, no malo ich nie je, vsetky podlepene na 0,5mm :
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Bojim sa tych rebier, nemaju rovnaku vysku pri obvode a pri strede, takze bude asi dost problem to tam riadne dopasovat. sablonu mam pripravenu, tak snad dnes sa do toho pustim.

[Fito]

Takze, ozivil som tohoto kostlivca, trvalo mi to dlho, pretoze, ako som bol dobre na zaciatku stavby rozbehnuty, tak som narazil na takuuuuuu hovadsku chybu, ze som to najprv chcel podpalit, potom iba zahodit, nakoniec som to teda dal do hlbokeho suplika, a tam som to v piatok, po strasne dlhej nelepicskej pauze, nasiel, oprasil som prach, zobral majzlik a kladivo, a pomeho

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Takze, chyb je tam niekolko, prva chyba najvascia = Kabina po nasadeni na kotol nedosada na podlahu, medzera viac ako 3mm..
Riesenie, vyrezat z dielu 17b cast oznacenu na fotke modrym krizikom, aby sa kotol dostal o tie 3mm nizsie. Na celkovej fotke je vidiet model pred upravou - kotol viditelne smeruje dopredu nadol, a mal by byt vdorovne.
Ked som riesil tento problem, tak ma este napadlo vyriesit to podlozenim prednej casti kotla, ale to by nevyriesilo problem z nedosadajucou kabinou. Okrem toho by nesedeli bocne nadrze v naveznosti na kabinu,
Druha chyba - bocna cast kabiny, ktora je tvorena predlzenim nadrzi na vodu, nema zodpovedajuce casti, ktore by tvorili interier kabiny. Zapas koloru som uz minul na ine "drobnosti", takze bud siahnem po zapase koloru z PU29, alebo budem malovat, no sak uvidim.

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Par fotiek z prebiehajucej stavby, jednotlive diely pasuju vyborne, problem je pri zostavovani vascich celkov.

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Dva obrazky z nasucho zostavenej lokomotivy, je to iba tak nahadzane na podvozok, pretoze stale sa neviem nejak dopracovat k tomu, aby som dokazal bez problemov spojit diely 1.kabina 2.kotol 3.podlaha 4.podvozok 5.bocne nadrze
Furt mi tam cosi nehra. ale ja si zoberem hento murarske kladivo, a o chvilu to pojde, alebo to uz nepojde.

Jj, podlozku uz ma svoju vlastnu, tu este doladim

Pokracovanie urcite coskoro, bud to najdete v sekcii Vraky, alebo tu

[sony]

Fito.. klobúk dole.. parádne to máš... wou